Now I just need to fabricate some time to actually put knowledge in to practise :)

I miss nested tables and 1px spacer gifs :-p

I can see exactly where you’re coming from and agree with the sentiment. Like Bruce, it’s more the practicalities that I’m worried about.

And its exactly those practicalities that I hope to address! :)

The most popular screen-readers sit on top on IE/Win. I’ve been making websites for years and still have no idea how to turn off JS in that browser — I know it means searching through endless menus trying to find it and it’s painful every single time.

I’d be very interested to hear about these new techniques though :)

Ah no no no, I didn’t mean they went away, just that every project seemed to be a portal at the time, now everything seems to want to be some type of “Social” site… which isn’t a bad thing.

I class Flickr as a Social Network site, not a portal.

The Web’s getting quite good again, shame I hate it with a passion ;)

At @media 2005 I said this:

If we are doing things right, we should be able to tell users of older screen reader software to turn JS off for more consistent experience.

Note that I’m talking particularly about older screen reader software that are useless/clueless when it comes to dealing with JS properly. There are certain times where modern day scripting techniques work just fine, and other times where they don’t. Where they don’t, we can’t rely on a JS on/off binary scenario, and that’s where if we’ve done things properly a user of an older screen reader can safely turn it off without loss of functionality, and for a better user experience. Again, if we’ve done things properly.

And, for the record, I have some new techniques I’ve been thinking about that hopefully make all of this a bit more reasonable to achieve.

I don’t care about IE7 either, just yet. To be honest I can’t see the point in caring until a nearly finished version is available. The current version is so far from complete it’s almost funny :)

The funny thing about portals is that they never went away — they just got more focussed. Rather than Netscape and Excite covering everything, we now have Bikemagic for bikes, Flickr for photos, Stylegala for web design, etc etc. Not to mention the likes of Yahoo! and Google heading back in the original direction of portals…

I’ve got a fecking mountain of reading to do on the subject, shame my brain doesn;t retain information in a ‘have a conversation about it mannter’ more just bullet points of necessary information… and I don’t care about IE7 ;)

(that last bit’s a lie, it’s more that I have too much else to do than hear about more shit from Microsoft)

Social Networking’s good though, splendid use of the ‘web’ I feel it’s all very ‘we need a portal’ of the late 90’s (I still don’t reckon BIKEmagic will work ;0) )