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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1553</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 22:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentalist :)</description>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 13:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just ziptied my mobile to be ipod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just ziptied my mobile to be ipod.</p>
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		<title>By: Donk</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1550</link>
		<dc:creator>Donk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a 6230, bought a 512 mmc card, the nokia 94kbs aac files sound pretty damn good on the phone, hey presto  15 hours or so of music always in my pocket for £40. Not the easiest to setup but then we&#039;re all IT geeks round here anyway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a 6230, bought a 512 mmc card, the nokia 94kbs aac files sound pretty damn good on the phone, hey presto  15 hours or so of music always in my pocket for £40. Not the easiest to setup but then we’re all IT geeks round here anyway</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1545</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats, you are the king of Techno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats, you are the king of Techno</p>
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		<title>By: MikeD</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1544</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a 512MB SD card for 25 quid, stuck it in the top of my 40 quid Treo, downloaded some shareware ($15), bought a headphone adaptor to suit the stupid tiny jack socket in it and bingo - a combined phone, PDA, web browser, email terminal and MP3 player with about 10 albums on it for, what, 75 quid? Bargain.

Obviously it&#039;s the size of a floor tile, but mleh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a 512MB SD card for 25 quid, stuck it in the top of my 40 quid Treo, downloaded some shareware ($15), bought a headphone adaptor to suit the stupid tiny jack socket in it and bingo — a combined phone, PDA, web browser, email terminal and MP3 player with about 10 albums on it for, what, 75 quid? Bargain.</p>
<p>Obviously it’s the size of a floor tile, but mleh.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1543</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/motorola/why-the-ipod-phone-doesnt-matter-100675.php&quot; title=&quot;Read more iPhone stuff here&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ah haa!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/motorola/why-the-ipod-phone-doesnt-matter-100675.php" title="Read more iPhone stuff here" rel="nofollow">ah haa!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re cheapening the brand: See also iPod Shuffle and MacMini. 

You can have mass-market success or be a premium brand - its very very difficult to do both at once (IMO). I think Apple are trying to find the middle ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re cheapening the brand: See also iPod Shuffle and MacMini. </p>
<p>You can have mass-market success or be a premium brand — its very very difficult to do both at once (IMO). I think Apple are trying to find the middle ground.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1541</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;q&gt;I wonder though, will it be an Apple phone, or will it just be Apple’s software on board?&lt;/q&gt;

Yes, I did wonder that too. In terms of marketing an Apple phone has a lot more chic than a motorola one.

Going back to the Free Apple Phone thing, I meant less from a monetary point of view, more a &#039;brand value&#039; view.  Would Apple want to be associated with something that is seen as &#039;cheap&#039; IYSWIM.

Like when Levis didn;t want supermarkets to sell their jeans as it would cheapen the brand name (incidently I believe that don&#039;t care anymore and decided anyone can sell their jeans - probably when they realised not doing so would cost them millions)

Back to Apple again, I suppose giving a phone away for peanuts is good way to get people into the brand and then when they are there and on board with iTunes for mp3 downloads they have locked the user into the brand.

You know what.. I reckon it will be a Motorola phone, and in a few years if it&#039;s proven to work, other companies will beg Apple to licence the software from them.. cunning apple.

waffle over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><q>I wonder though, will it be an Apple phone, or will it just be Apple’s software on board?</q></p>
<p>Yes, I did wonder that too. In terms of marketing an Apple phone has a lot more chic than a motorola one.</p>
<p>Going back to the Free Apple Phone thing, I meant less from a monetary point of view, more a ‘brand value’ view.  Would Apple want to be associated with something that is seen as ‘cheap’ IYSWIM.</p>
<p>Like when Levis didn;t want supermarkets to sell their jeans as it would cheapen the brand name (incidently I believe that don’t care anymore and decided anyone can sell their jeans — probably when they realised not doing so would cost them millions)</p>
<p>Back to Apple again, I suppose giving a phone away for peanuts is good way to get people into the brand and then when they are there and on board with iTunes for mp3 downloads they have locked the user into the brand.</p>
<p>You know what.. I reckon it will be a Motorola phone, and in a few years if it’s proven to work, other companies will beg Apple to licence the software from them.. cunning apple.</p>
<p>waffle over.</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1539</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;q&gt;YOu really think that Apple will want their product given away free?&lt;/q&gt;

Do you really think Nokia, Siemens, Panasonic, Motorola, SonyEricsson et al want to? I don&#039;t think they have that much of a choice. That&#039;s just the way the market works. I wonder though, will it be an Apple phone, or will it just be Apple&#039;s software on board?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><q>YOu really think that Apple will want their product given away free?</q></p>
<p>Do you really think Nokia, Siemens, Panasonic, Motorola, SonyEricsson et al want to? I don’t think they have that much of a choice. That’s just the way the market works. I wonder though, will it be an Apple phone, or will it just be Apple’s software on board?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon #2</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1538</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon #2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooh an apple phone... how great :o&#124;

check out the sony ericsson W800i, its a walkman phone, but its not gay and white so no one will buy it.

Why dont people realise the white ipod headphones are poo? silly people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooh an apple phone… how great :o|</p>
<p>check out the sony ericsson W800i, its a walkman phone, but its not gay and white so no one will buy it.</p>
<p>Why dont people realise the white ipod headphones are poo? silly people.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1537</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOu really think that Apple will want their product given away free?

Is it an mp3 player with a phone attached or a phone with iTunes onboard?

Different angle of marketing, I suspect it will be flash based (although when they have sold a few million units will up that to a HDD - when HDD&#039;s are small enough, which someone has just done possible Toshiba)

You&#039;e right about the tunes thing.  I can see that mobile networks will end up in a spin when it happens.  They will lose so much money they&#039;ll not be able to pay for their 3G contracts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOu really think that Apple will want their product given away free?</p>
<p>Is it an mp3 player with a phone attached or a phone with iTunes onboard?</p>
<p>Different angle of marketing, I suspect it will be flash based (although when they have sold a few million units will up that to a HDD — when HDD’s are small enough, which someone has just done possible Toshiba)</p>
<p>You’e right about the tunes thing.  I can see that mobile networks will end up in a spin when it happens.  They will lose so much money they’ll not be able to pay for their 3G contracts!</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1536</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah, I hit reply and find two more comments in front ;-)

People won&#039;t have to buy it. It&#039;ll be a free upgrade when they get their latest Vo2da Torange 3-mobile contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah, I hit reply and find two more comments in front ;-)</p>
<p>People won’t have to buy it. It’ll be a free upgrade when they get their latest Vo2da Torange 3-mobile contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1535</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye, but all these things are mega expensive to begin with, expecially when they say Apple on them. But competition will drive prices down, just as it has with every generation of mobile phone and music player to date.

As Jeff C said, why is anybody going to want to download music to their mobile at an inflated Vodafone price, when they can get it via their desktop internet connection for 1/4 the price? Its just not going to happen. Surely the general public isn&#039;t that stupid? Oh, hang on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye, but all these things are mega expensive to begin with, expecially when they say Apple on them. But competition will drive prices down, just as it has with every generation of mobile phone and music player to date.</p>
<p>As Jeff C said, why is anybody going to want to download music to their mobile at an inflated Vodafone price, when they can get it via their desktop internet connection for 1/4 the price? Its just not going to happen. Surely the general public isn’t that stupid? Oh, hang on…</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1534</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.P.S. the iPhone better look more apple than motorola.. infact if it doesn&#039;t then no one will buy it.

I will stop commenting now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.P.S. the iPhone better look more apple than motorola.. infact if it doesn’t then no one will buy it.</p>
<p>I will stop commenting now.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://thinkdrastic.net/journal/2005/04/21/music-on-your-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-1533</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I prefer to have my phone and ipod separate... why? because when the iPod breaks at least I still have my phone!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I prefer to have my phone and ipod separate… why? because when the iPod breaks at least I still have my phone!</p>
<p>;)</p>
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